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2008.11.05

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Yusuf Smith

As-Salaamu 'alaikum,

A couple of years ago I did something similar by joining the Conservative party, at a time just after Michael Howard had resigned as leader and David Cameron was just about to come along (I did not join in time to get a vote). I did not bother renewing my membership after a year, because I found them moving in an increasingly anti-Muslim direction, cosying up to think tanks who pushed "social cohesion" by attacking concessions to Muslim religious rights. I do think it's unhealthy for Muslims to be too attached to one party, and perhaps Muslims could vote for Tories (or Republicans) at more local levels, but if a party trades on public bigotry towards us, there's simply no way we can vote for it, even if we join it.

Haroon Moghul

I entirely agree with you, which is why I found Muslim support of Republicans so galling this time around. I disagree with their economic agenda, but it is not in and of itself grounds for refusing the Party. Yet I feel like in the last few months, a number of moderate Republicans crossed over to vote for Obama in part because they didn't like what had happened to their Party.

I hope that as the GOP rethinks itself, it doesn't give in to Muslim-bashing; in a sense, perhaps they have the very obvious lesson that Muslim bashing failed and failed miserably, and Obsession-like campaigns did nothing. I might be too optimistic, as you point out w/ respect to the Tories, but at the least I hope Muslim Republicans do make some effort... and that we as a community can help them try to steer that conversation in a better direction...

For now, I'm just happy to be on the left side. Which is the right side. Etc.

sophister

So on what possible grounds would you propose we ally ourselves with republicans? Because their social values align with ours? I agree we should not be attached to one party, but I think there is no way the republican party would want us. That would just hurt their base way too much. Even if a few people left now, to vote for Obama, if muslims start filling their ranks, who knows what would happen to them. Is that what you are proposing? That we destroy the repubs from the inside?

Susu

A Muslim Republican core? We already have the Gull-Hasan family, and many other well to do Muslim families who quietly support the Republicans. If the Gull-Hasans are any indication, they're all a bunch of wealthy disconnected knuckleheads too. Oh well, I suppose the Gull-Hasans are like our Muslim version of comic relief. Stewart, Leno, and Colbert have W. and Cheney. We have Seeme, Muhammad Ali, and Asma. Unfortunately, our buddy Muhamamd Ali lost in his bid to become part of the Colorado State Senate last night, which makes me want to shout "Yes we can!"

svend

Salaams,

Quite unusually, I disagree with much of what you've said in this post.

Doesn't seem to me that it's the responsibility of Muslims to be reaching out to hypocrites who've trampled on rule of law and essentially made Muslim-baiting part of patriotism (or "just" passively watched as it happened before their eyes).

Also, I'm not sure we'll even need to try. After this PR fiasco, the proverbial mountain just may come to...umm...you know. The GOP's going to need to reach out to us, even more out of a desire to to combat the new popular link between them and Islamophobia than a sincere change of heart.

But if you can stomach Voodoo Economics and the GOP's various ideological obsessions, it's probably a great time to be a Muslim Republican. They're going to be eager to highlight what little Muslim involvement they have. If you're Muslim and have a pulse, you'll probably find yourself suddenly promoted soon.

As for the supposed need to saving the Republican Party, if it can't evolve its thinking after this painful reckoning, good riddance for all our sakes. Better for these zealots to be raging out in the wilderness for a while than back in control of the agenda again.

What's more, a schism between the neos, theos, libs and paleos might even be a good thing for American democracy; one step closer to a multi-party system with a real spectrum of policy positions instead of these almost identical platforms on so many pressing issues.

Haroon Moghul

As a social conservative, with strong sympathies for some of the ideas of the paleo-con movement, I don't identify the Republican Party as solely the party of the rich, nor do I see it as the neo-con party. It became those things increasingly, at the expense of a system of conservative, anti-imperial sentiments and preference for local government, local institutions and a sense that government cannot always pose the best solution. These ideas need to be sorted out, thought through, evolved and modified, but cannot so long as the party was the party of big business + neo-con crazies.

Now is precisely that time. When the G.O.P. is freaking out in the wilderness, debating what it represents, Muslims should be a part of that debate, pointing out the flaws of the direction the party took, against the Constitution and the Republic, not from a position of hubris but of participation. What this means practically is not allowing Muslim institutions to become so caught up in the wave of Obama's election that we essentially conclude that we are now and forever democratic bastions.

Now is the time for Muslim institutions, including mosques, to reach out to local government and to try to get both sides to notice them and this can only be done if we remain, at some level, pragmatically Democratic or functionally Independent: The G.O.P. should know that it still has a chance of reaching Muslim voters, and the Democrats should know that they can still lose us; namely, Obama cannot continue his rightward ideological lurch, esp. on foreign policy, in a post-election environment with no consequences.

This also mean we not promote a discourse whereby any type of political conservatism is inherently un-Islamic; we may disagree or agree, but religion and politics are two different things, and religiosity can lead us to different interpretations.

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